![]() I'm thinking around $250 is a price many people would be willing to pay. This is 500 eur with how many units minimum? At that point I don't think we can get more than 5 orders. I think it's a good idea to drop caps lock and mode (get rid of LEDs). If you make the space bar shorter on the right, it looks like everything will fit nice.įor the Japanese-style space bar, are you thinking of making the right meta-super-hyper keys larger? The concern I have is that a short space bar version would need a different PCB layout and plate mount, unless you get really clever with how you mount the space bar and have key caps that go across two switches. I think they can go into the repeat/mode lock/scroll space, but the constraint should be that the shape of the the key block remain rectangular. SymbolicsCloneMatrix.png (11.02 KiB) Viewed 24032 times SymbolicsLayout.png (28.5 KiB) Viewed 24032 timesĪgree 100% about the cursor keys. It would have n-key roll-over, plate mounted switches and a programmable controler. It should be an improved layout which allows for cursor keys and should come in either a long space bar version (7 units at most, the original Symbolics keyboard space bar is too long) and a short space bar version (2 units).Ĭoincidentally I got a price quite this week:ĥ00 EUR per unit, made in Germany, including key caps, shipping across Europe and 20% VAT. I'm one of those who would like to have something like that. Now with so much demand I think it's possible to get a batch manufactured at an economical price I've wanted one when I first heard about it a few years ago, but thought it was impractical to build one. Vsedach wrote:After the really strong response on Hacker News and the many page views the Lisp Keyboard topic has gotten, it seems there is strong demand for a Lisp Machine-style keyboard from programmers. The one thing I'm really uncertain about is getting small batches of key caps custom printed. I'm not sure what the minimum batch size would be for the plastic keyboard body (I assume I could source it in small batches because the Symbolics keyboard body is very simple). If none are willing, the PCB, plate mount, and PCB assembly can all be done in small batches. I'm not sure what the minimum run size existing keyboard manufacturers would be willing to do. The keyboard controller is going to have to be programmable - one of the reasons is that the parentheses get their own (second) set of keys on the Lisp Machine keyboards, where the brackets normally are (the |\ symbols are split into two keys, and the brackets are produced by shift-modifying those). ![]() ![]() I don't know how to source key caps or get them custom printed. Symbolics Ivory keyboard layout so that the top half of keyboard plastic casing has just one rectangular cutout for the keys (easier to prototype and manufacture). ![]() Now as to what I was thinking for keyboard specs: Does anyone here have experience with manufacturing keyboards, or getting keyboard companies to do smaller production runs? To estimate demand, I've put together a wait list. Now with so much demand I think it's possible to get a batch manufactured at an economical price. After the really strong response on Hacker News and the many page views the Lisp Keyboard topic has gotten, it seems there is strong demand for a Lisp Machine-style keyboard from programmers. ![]()
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